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[charlie]

the clutch on my bx cream machine is playing up

its getting more and more difficult to select gear

have adjusted it but it only seems to free it a short while

i think theres some clutch still left, as its not slipping

but what do you reckon?????

[Philhod]

Hiya Charlie.

Where the adjuster is at the front, you have a short piece of 1/4" steel bar between the clutch arm and the adjusting screw. Cut a new one about 8mm longer, making sure the ends are cut square and replace it. What`s happened is the cable has stretched and the extra 1/4" or so gives you all (or most)
of your adjustment back

Don`t throw the original away as you will need it anytime you go to a new cable....which as David will tell you... you don`t really want to do till you have to

[David]

as David will tell you... you don`t really want to do till you have to

Grr.


Be sure that you've not got the beginnings of the clutch release bearing breaking though the pressure plate fingers. If this is happening, you'll lose the clutch without warning, so get it changed before it leaves you stranded.

[Philhod]

From new clutch and cable the cable stretches 1/2 an inch, with a good 4mm left on the plate,( this from personal checking) A cit mechanic showed me the dodge. If the movement is smooth with no noise it`s 99% the cable.


But if you want to do it, change em both at the same time

[Vanny]

hmmm, 8mm extension you say, that would have been a good solution when i had the 19rd (8 years ago), ho hum, on the other side i think i have a couple of the 'original' bars floating around should anyone ever have need!

[docchevron132]

I had this a while back on the diesel, when it had the n/a engine / box.
Adjusted the clutch and about 2 days later there'd be no adjustment again and the thing was dragging..

In my case it was the pedal box breaking up..

[Philhod]

Ah....err yes.... I`d forgotten about that

All what I did was after I had the pedal box off and welded all of it ......including the throttle bracket

[charlie]

hmmm

i thought it was only the early bxs that suffered from box failure but will check that first

is there any other symptoms of the clutch bearings going??? as bandit mentioned this to me as well, but i know he just wants to see me change the clutch so he can get all superior like with his fat finger wagging

cheers lads

[Vanny]

All bx's suffer from thefailing box

The give away that bearings failed is no gears!
Usually as they fail they start to whine a little, when mine finally went through the fingers and made a lovely mess it had been whining for at least a month.

[Bx Bandit]

All bx's suffer from thefailing box....

I phink Charlie was talking about the pedal box not the gearbox. I thought it was the early bxs that suffered pedal box failure on the clutch pedal, but facelift models had a revised p/box which fractured where the throttle pedal pivots.

[Vanny]

I was talking about the Pedal box, but i didnt realise there was a difference between Mk1 Mk2 pedal boxes! You learn something new everyday!

[Philhod]

Mine`s a 93 and the whole thing was shite till I welded it up.


I ran runs of weld across the width to strengthen it all up....that was in 98 an it`s bin ok since

[Vanny]

failed in five years! WOW you must have heavy feet?

[docchevron132]

All BX pedal boxes are the same AFAIK, certainly every pedal box I've ever seen has been the same.
they dont just fail around the throttle, but also where the clutch cable clips into the pedal box.
Tis mighty thin around there, and the box is made of crapite, so they flex a bit, then they crack, then the cable fucks off through the pedal box...

[Bx Bandit]

I'm probably wrong then It's been known before ya know!

[Philhod]

No .....When was that then?

[David]

AFAIK there is a very slight difference between pedal boxes destined for different models. Certainly the 16/19 petrol pedal box is not identical to the TD pedal box, as the clutch cable comes out at a different angle.

They are the flimsiest pedal box I've ever seen though. I've also welded various bits into my pedal box in the hope that it doesn't fall to pieces.

[Bx Bandit]

No .....When was that then?

Well now you ask.......I can't quite remember; perhaps I've never been wrong.....??

[Philhod]

David wrote:-
The clutch cable comes out at a different angle!


Was that when it was new or when it started to collapse a month later

Doc said his was made of Crapite....I was lucky being one of the last ones made, mine was made of new improved cardboard, coated with heat treated cheese!

[docchevron132]

Ah, cheeseium!

Now thats interesting David!
I've fitted pedal boxes from petrol's into diesels and vice versa before and never noticed the difference!
the pedal box in the valver is from a diesel, maybe thats why it was an utter arse to get the bastard cable in!