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Playing with whurlygigs ..........
To my surprise, the Garrett turbo (GT15) that came off the Xanty 2.1 has a smaller A/R than the BX (T0234) so I was hoping to fit the Xanty one to reduce that dreaded lag.
But, the air in and out ports are all arse about face compared to the BX setup.
Then I thought about swapping internals only the spindles are different sizes.
So now it's case of keeping the central part (CHRA or whatever it's called) of the GT15 complete with spindle/turbine/compressor but use the turbine and compressor housings off the T0234
Judging by the turbine housing, it's a bolt on swap job but the GT15 turbine is slightly smaller, resulting in a greater clearance between it and it's housing. How critical is this clearance?
The other option I guess is to use a front mounted i/c and use the T15 as is but I'm sort of reluctant to do that
But, the air in and out ports are all arse about face compared to the BX setup.
Then I thought about swapping internals only the spindles are different sizes.
So now it's case of keeping the central part (CHRA or whatever it's called) of the GT15 complete with spindle/turbine/compressor but use the turbine and compressor housings off the T0234
Judging by the turbine housing, it's a bolt on swap job but the GT15 turbine is slightly smaller, resulting in a greater clearance between it and it's housing. How critical is this clearance?
The other option I guess is to use a front mounted i/c and use the T15 as is but I'm sort of reluctant to do that
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Re: Playing with whurlygigs ..........
Very.Bx Bandit wrote:How critical is this clearance?
Don't bugger about with it! Either change the turbo complete, or leave it alone!
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Re: Playing with whurlygigs ..........
I think what he meant ^^^ is...
The extra space between the impeller & housing will cause the air to just spin around (or straight past it) instaed of blowing/sucking.... oooooh, more tea vicar!
The extra space between the impeller & housing will cause the air to just spin around (or straight past it) instaed of blowing/sucking.... oooooh, more tea vicar!
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Re: Playing with whurlygigs ..........
That told me then! Actually if I can't change the turbine housing I can't use the thing unless I make some sort of adapter plate which just sounds horrible!
Ah well, I'm back to the big elastic band then
Ah well, I'm back to the big elastic band then
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You could stick the elastic band round the edge to get rid of the gap.
It has to be a specific gap Bandito, which depends on, well....a lot of things really but it involves some maths and the outside dia and the pitch or depth of the blades/ vanes, coupled with the volume of air being shoved in.
Too big and you get little pressure developing.
Too small and a vacuum develops by the speed of the passing vanes, slowing it by the drag that ensues.
It has to be a specific gap Bandito, which depends on, well....a lot of things really but it involves some maths and the outside dia and the pitch or depth of the blades/ vanes, coupled with the volume of air being shoved in.
Too big and you get little pressure developing.
Too small and a vacuum develops by the speed of the passing vanes, slowing it by the drag that ensues.
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Ah well, it was fun whilst the dream lasted. Fuck it, I'll wham it on the bay!
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Re: Playing with whurlygigs ..........
i thought whurlygigs, by there definition, made things go upwards, not forwards?
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Picky picky! If it helps I'll mount the turbo in a vertical plane then. Happy now?
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Would that be there definition as opposed to here definition?
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Re: Playing with whurlygigs ..........
Bandit, i could be confusing your whurlygigs with whirlmajigs?
David, if your trying to keyboard warrior my use of the english language then your failing on two counts, firstly i draw the 'I'm an american, and this in my country this bastardisation of the english language is acceptable, secondly you should better spend your time finding some one who gives a whurlygig!
god, i've come over all Billy . . . .
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David, if your trying to keyboard warrior my use of the english language then your failing on two counts, firstly i draw the 'I'm an american, and this in my country this bastardisation of the english language is acceptable, secondly you should better spend your time finding some one who gives a whurlygig!
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Damn!Vanny wrote:
(OVER ALL not ALL OVER!!! Fuckers)
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(OVER ALL not ALL OVER!!! Fuckers)
It's impossible to pull the American card and hope to get away with it you fiend!!!! Disgraceful, utterly disgraceful!
It's impossible to pull the American card and hope to get away with it you fiend!!!! Disgraceful, utterly disgraceful!
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I think David was confused by your use of there instead of their definitive, Vanny
Last time I looked the Yanks use different ones too
But like you said, just like them, you don't give a shit anyway
Last time I looked the Yanks use different ones too
But like you said, just like them, you don't give a shit anyway
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Pfft. Now write that sentence in English!Vanny wrote:David, if your trying to keyboard warrior my use of the english language then your failing on two counts, firstly i draw the 'I'm an american, and this in my country this bastardisation of the english language is acceptable, secondly you should better spend your time finding some one who gives a whurlygig!
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I thought it was whirlygigs anyway
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How on Earth can Vanny claim to be American? He's a Scouser! A ginger one at that...
Was he actually born in the land of the terminally stupid?
Was he actually born in the land of the terminally stupid?
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Yes! - Liverpool!
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Near Wales
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Don't you start you mad Wigan-er!
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Merely passing on a fact my little welsh wizard. So you can untwist thy knickers
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