BXProject

charlie · Post by **charlie** » 24 Jun 2008

anyways the launch for the silver surfering xm is set for the first of july

sooooooooo its takin the last of me money

just brought a set of dunlop from some local garage in the deep dark valleys like

cheap mind you Â£190 for 4 but its still a fuckin lot

and have sorted some insurance from swift for de miserly sum of Â£188

get this though, the way their computerised system works is thta ive got fully comp but with a Â£1000 excess!!!!!

cause it was cheaper then gettin third party fire and theft which was what i wanted in the beginin

and ive still got to tax the bastard

fuck im skint

does anyone want to buy a bx

Philhod · Post by **Philhod** » 24 Jun 2008

You shudda told Pilsy earlier in the week he`d probably have jumped at it

....wether he`d av bought.....I dunno

charlie · Post by **charlie** » 08 Jul 2008

launch party was held before the launch so launch was in fact sunday

and it was a sort of success

well anyway im not dead

will try to keep this short and fill in the details later

if you dont load the engine alls ok

drives ok, changes up and down, turbo whines etc

but if you work the engine

the engine management light comes on

the rev counter drops to read zero

the accelerator is non responsive

the shed then rolled to a standstill and then the engine dies

i left it for a minute and it started again and all was ok

well that was sunday...........

yesterday i drove it gently/mediumish all was ok

course, then had to give it a bit of welly and

management light came on, revs drop to zero, and engine kept going, same as before

this time though it didnt roll to a standstill but kept pullin

which was wierd when you see the rev counter at zero and you got your foot off the gas

it pulled for about 10 secs then stopped for a couple

then picked up again...

this all carried on for about a minute till the car had slowed to just about
a halt and then the engine stopped

so i left it for a minute and it started up again and i drove it gently home

soooooooo

errrrrrrrrrr

fuckin hell

errrrrrrrr

help

smiffy · Post by **smiffy** » 09 Jul 2008

Hmmmm, that sounds very strange. What engine is this again? if it's a petrol, I'd put money on it being an electrical fault, like the potentiometer (throttle switch) or AFM (air flow meter). are the connections to these secure? If diesel, then I really don't know what to suggest?

john s

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » 09 Jul 2008

I thought maybe TDC sensor or wiring as both engine running and revcounter are affected.

docchevron132 · Post by **docchevron132** » 09 Jul 2008

Could be the CAS, or, er, hang on which pump has this thing got?
I'm guessing it'll be the EPIC pump right?

Are the mulitplugs secure and clean to the pump?
Also, is the plug on the FBW throttle secure and clean?

Other than that getting the ECU read will tell you in moments.
If you feel so disposed to a blink test with the EDC light and tell us what blink codes you have.

If it only dies under load then it *MAY* be worth checking that pesky lift meter in the injector and the wiring to it.

charlie · Post by **charlie** » 09 Jul 2008

yep its the lucas epic pump

but before i jump in have to tell you that there was an issue with the engine management light coming on once before i took it to bits but there was no other symptoms

and the engine management light had come on from start up once or twice after id put it all back together but again with no other symptoms, and tonight i started it up the management light came on

but the two times above that i had me problem, the engine management light was out when i began to load the engine

dont know whether this id connected but thought id mention it

will check the multiplugs to the pump

and yer gonna have to explain this so that an idiot , me, can understand it

soooo whats does fbw stand for,

i got the throttle bit

and the tdc sensor is ????

but ive been talkin to a mate a work who said his neighbour can do a reading of the ecu for me for a tenner as this seems the most logical next step rather then me fiddling around hopefully

but thanks for the replies

its a start

docchevron132 · Post by **docchevron132** » 10 Jul 2008

FBW is Fly By Wire, the cable operates a potentiometer mounted near the battery.

TDC / Crank Angle Sensor is located on the bell housing and takes info from the ring gear on the outer edge of the flexi plate.

If your mate can read the ECU for a tenner then it'll be the best bet.
Saves head scratching, let the computer tell you whats wrong, then take it from there.

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » 10 Jul 2008

Way2go wrote:I thought maybe TDC sensor or wiring as both engine running and revcounter are affected.

TDC stands for Top Dead Centre. ie it outputs a pulse each time the pistons are at the top and the ECU then adjusts automatically any advance/retard according to the running conditions.

FBW is Fly By Wire

I'm not sure whether the Cits do it but sometimes the blink code fault can be read on the dash warning light - others to confirm/deny?

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » 10 Jul 2008

posts crossed Doc.

docchevron132 · Post by **docchevron132** » 10 Jul 2008

Yep. the blink codes can be read on the management light on the dash, all you need is a switch and a lentgh of wire!

charlie · Post by **charlie** » 10 Jul 2008

ta, ta and ta again

charlie · Post by **charlie** » 14 Jul 2008

docchevron1472 wrote:Yep. the blink codes can be read on the management light on the dash, all you need is a switch and a lentgh of wire!

bastards want Â£50 to read the ecu so whats this lights on dash thing

or can you buy a reader!!!

ta

docchevron132 · Post by **docchevron132** » 14 Jul 2008

You can get readers on EBay for not much. They pop up all the time.

I have one in stock as it goes, but I have no idea when I can get to yours..

I could of course read it on the Proxia or Elit if the car was in bristol, but it isn't..

Anyway, te alternative is get a length of wire, crimp a small male spade connector on one end and sticka toggle on / off switch on t'other end of wire.
Then one more length of wire from the switch to earth.
Stick the spade connector in pin 1 of the diagnostic socket.
Turn ignition on then flash the switch, that will start the blink code sequence using the management light on the dash.

charlie · Post by **charlie** » 14 Jul 2008

wot about this

http://www.abbeypowertools.co.uk/car-se ... 68079.aspx

[edit]^ or maybe not this one cause it not for a diesel

sooo is there one anyone can recommend thats fairly cheap

like me

docchevron132 · Post by **docchevron132** » 14 Jul 2008

hhmm, you're car is an S2.... What diag. socket has it got?

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » 14 Jul 2008

Does this gadget do any more than just reading the blink code off the dash though?

It doesnt seem to have a direct readout just another blinking light/LED.

docchevron132 · Post by **docchevron132** » 15 Jul 2008

You are quite right W2G.
I have a Draper thing that does just that, before I was learned enough to know I could use the bloody light on the dash!

Philhod · Post by **Philhod** » 15 Jul 2008

I`m in the market for one of these gadgets for the Picasso`s, I just don`t know what to get . When I speak to experts I get questions like ....is it an 03..what part of 03 is it obdm (well something like that) when I answer, I get oh my god it`s during the change, you could need a xxxxxxx or maybe a zzzzzzz unless it`s got yyyyyy. At which point they get fuckoff from me !!!!!!! Soooooooooo as Charlie says, If anyone has any advice that doesn`t need me to have nerd stamped on my forehead....I`m listening

charlie · Post by **charlie** » 16 Jul 2008

got this lot

Series 2
I'm unsure from what, till what time the large 30 pins diagnostic connector is used.
The connector is 3 pins wide and 10 pins long with the connector housing being brown.
The pins are numbered 1,2,3 from top to bottom and A,B,Câ€¦.,I,J from left to right.
Hydroactive diagnostics pin : E2
Engine diagnostics pin : C3
ABS diagnostics pin : E1
Airco diagnostics pin : F1
The following circuit can be used to read out the diagnostic codes.

+12 V ---- 680 Ohm-----LED------------- to diagnostics pin

and from wire in between LED and pin

----------switch----GND (- of battery)

In case the large 30 pins diagnostic connector is present only a wire to connect the diagnostic pin to ground is needed. The readout will work via the diagnostic lights on the dashboard.

(In case it doesn't work, one can always revert back to the circuit described above.)
To start readout of the codes:
1. Connect the circuit above, with the switch opened.
2. Turn on ignition
3. Within 3 seconds close the switch for 3-5 seconds, and open it again
4. The start code 12 will apear. Blink, pause, blink,blink.
5. Press the switch again for 3-5 seconds, and open it again.
6a. Now the diagnostic codes will follow in case there is an error code stored.
6b. If no more codes are stored the end code 11 will apear. Blink, pause, blink.
7a repeat step 5 and 6 until all codes are read out
7b After the end code you can clear all codes.
To clear all stored error codes:
1. First read out all codes described above
2. After the end code, close the switch for excactly 15 seconds.
3. Open the switch again
4. Now all stored codes are cleared.
Alternatively you can erase all error codes by disconnecting the battery for 10 (or more)
minutes. This will not only clear the codes, but also erase the 'learned' settings (eg for the
engine) and refer back to factory default.

mine has got the 3 pins wide and 10 pins long found under the steering wheel

does this mean the dash readout wont work on mine

if i can get the blink codes can anyone translate them for me???????