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lucas epic

Posted: 09 Oct 2008
by charlie
cant find the stop solenoid on me xm

have got the two plastic covers and assorted pipes off the pump

was expecting to see it stickin out but its nowhere too be seen

seems to be two sort of casing things that it might be in

ones in the middle of where the 4 fuel pipes go out

and ones at the back near the glow plug in de pic

sooooooo

any ideas

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Posted: 09 Oct 2008
by Bx Bandit
Oh so that's why you were phoning!! Sorry mate, I've been outside doing me decking. Dunno is the short answer cos I've never delved that far into the Xantia...

Posted: 09 Oct 2008
by Bx Bandit
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This mean anything? Apart from that mate,I'm none the wiser. It must surely be under that black thing with all the wire things....? :roll:

Posted: 10 Oct 2008
by charlie
confusion reigns eh :?:

i found this but it doesnt look like the epic i got

info is on p28/29

http://www.volkscity.co.uk/Files/ENGINE ... DIESEL.pdf

the two likeliest places i could see on my pump is highlighted 746 red on bandits thing and 760 red

but the bits shown dont look like the stop solenoid i got

hmmmmm



:? :? :? :? :?

Posted: 15 Oct 2008
by docchevron132
Sorry for the delay dude, I' missed this completley!

746 looks about right, but the exploded diagram is not the clearest, by which I mean 746 looks ABOUt right, but the srawing is not quite what it actually looks like, but following the little line things then thats where it should be, if that makes any sense?

Posted: 15 Oct 2008
by charlie
cheers doc :D

ill take that bit off and go and find a replacement

:wink: :D :wink:

Posted: 15 Oct 2008
by charlie
and i just remembered me self :oops:

need to ask u again :oops:

u mentioned that u might be able to get me this relay

http://www.bxproject.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1807

cause if not i'll order one from the usa/newarks

its the only place that i can find a relay with the diode

:roll::roll::roll:

Posted: 16 Oct 2008
by docchevron132
Oh shit, yeah, sorry dude, forgot all about it.

I'll get on to it ASAP.

Posted: 19 Oct 2008
by charlie
why does everything on this fuckin car get so difficult

am trying to get the new stop solenoid but its another fuckin mission

all the motor factors ive tried can only supply the same, wrong stop solenoid that ive got already

the local lucas place went out of business two weeks ago

another so called local expert said that you cant buy them separate and he said that it was the pointy bit at 760

need to get this car sorted but its painfully slow work

[wtf] [wtf] [wtf] [wtf] [wtf]

Posted: 19 Oct 2008
by Bx Bandit
Have you tried the main stealer????

Posted: 21 Oct 2008
by docchevron132
Erm, but from following the line on the drawing 760 goes through the end plate and therefore must be the fuel limiting trigger?
The two EPIC pumps (one on an XM and one on a Xantia as it goes) I've stripped had the stop solonoid above the injector pipe output ports which was accessible after removing the plastic end shields.

They WERE available seperatley, I know his cos I replaced one about a year or so ago.
Albeit Lucas going to the wall may have fucked things up, but then lLSUK were only really suppliers and made very little anyway.
I'll ask Manny tomorrow and see if he's got a pump laying around I can rob.

Posted: 21 Oct 2008
by charlie
cheers doc

ive got a few more numbers to phone for the stop solenoid but so far its all been no

will now try citroen themselves next and see what they say

sat with the bandit and his furry walnuts yesterday and did some cross referencing we reckoned the piece is at 690

but might as well be stuck up the atric monkeys arse if i cant find a replacement

:roll::roll:

Posted: 21 Oct 2008
by Way2go
You cross referenced the Bandit's furry walnuts ? :shock: [vomit]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008
by Bx Bandit
:shock: :shock: I don't remember my furry walnuts being cross referenced....but hey there ya go!!! :lol: :shock:

Posted: 22 Oct 2008
by charlie
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

stop making me laugh

this a very serious thread

i only mentioned bandits furry walnuts cause.......

cause......

oh fuck off

:roll::roll:

Posted: 22 Oct 2008
by Philhod
[chin] [chin] Never had one of these apart but from the schematic, it looks like the unit in line with and to the left of, O ring 746.







or not!

Posted: 22 Oct 2008
by Bx Bandit
I agree that both those things inline with 746 and 760 look solenoidish, but there is also an electronic timing advance unit which (looking at Charlies VW link) is the 746 one and then a timing position sensor which is the 760 one. But the VW piccy is a bit vague and the piccy shown has no legend!

As long as i continue to be amused by Charlies Shed Woes then all is well.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

Posted: 22 Oct 2008
by Way2go
Bx Bandit wrote: As long as i continue to be amused by Charlies Shed Woes then all is well.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
Now, now Bandit, you have been warned before! :wink:
charlie wrote: stop making me laugh

this a very serious thread

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 23 Oct 2008
by Bx Bandit
:lol: :lol: Gotta keep him laughin' tho' W2G, else he's gonna have a breakdown (of medical and mechanical nature!!!!) :wink:

Posted: 23 Oct 2008
by charlie
yeah but its not me having the breakdowns its the bloody xm

i just throw the toys out of the pram

and then the pram against the wall

then demolish the wall

then grind it all to dust

:twisted::twisted::twisted:

therapy, therapy and more therapy

:D